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William Finnerty <newinngalway@yahoo.co.uk>  
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Subject: Criminal Matters & The European Court of Justice
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"Criminal matters"
(For Sceptic at Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:33 above)
by EU Source Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:26

It was criminal matters I had in mind in fact, such as those outlined (for Prime Minister Cowen TD on May 9th last) at http://www.humanrightsireland.com/PrimeMinisterCowen/9May2008/Email.htm for example.

How does the EJC (European Court of Justice I assume you mean) deal with such matters - as raised by Mr Ashley Mote MEP in the European Parliament?

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The above text has been copied from the following Indymedia (Ireland) location:
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/88423#comment233740

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Backwards into tyranny (For Sceptic at Sun Aug 03, 2008 15:38 above)
by EU Source Sun Aug 03, 2008 17:44

"Everything to do with its competence or powers is legally based and it has its own supreme court (the ECJ) to determine issues based entirely on the rule of law and nothing else."

Yes, and it uses a "Trial by Judges" arrangement - and not a "Trial by Jury" one.

Personally, I cannot think of anything more supportive of corruption and tyranny than a legal system which operates exclusively on "Trial by Judges".

People were well aware of this fact as far back as the 1200s at least - and hence the Magna Carte (issued in 1215 AD), which (in part) is still in use of course in the Republic of Ireland, though nowhere nearly as much as some (including myself) would like it to be.

It's backwards into the depths of tyranny the European Union is heading at the present time.

"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." (Thomas Jefferson, Principle Author of the American Declaration of Independence.)

Related link: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Tyranny%2C+Trial+by+Judges&btnG=Google+Search  

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The above text has been copied from the following Indymedia (Ireland) location:
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/88423#comment233719

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Lawfully resisting the corruption and tyranny
by Democrat Sun Aug 03, 2008 18:53

It seems to me the people of Usk (County Kildare, Republic of Ireland) badly need to have their case heard before a jury.

"For more than six hundred years --- that is, since Magna Carta, in 1215 --- there has been no clearer principle of English or American constitutional law, than that, in criminal cases, it is not only the right and duty of juries to judge what are the facts, what is the law, and what was the moral intent of the accused; but that it is also their right, and their primary and paramount duty, to judge of the justice of the law, and to hold all laws invalid, that are, in their opinion, unjust or oppressive, and all persons guiltless in violating, or resisting the execution of, such laws." (From http://www.lysanderspooner.org/TrialByJury.htm )

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The above text has been copied from the following Indymedia (Ireland) location:
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/87134#comment233724

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"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God"
          
(Thomas Jefferson's Seal)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Rebellion+to+tyrants+is+obedience+to+God,+Jefferson,+Seal&btnG=Google+Search

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Human Rights (Ireland)
http://www.humanrightsireland.com

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